Comments - Greatest Rock Frontmen.
March 25, 2005 thru April 4, 2005.
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gloick I agree---not only is it not based at all upon voice---but
also not on stage presence, ability to capture and hold audience,
or influence---all greater criteria than costume, use of stage?,
and antics(which translates into---has no talent so give me a
gimic) You have to realize that at the last update a new editor
took over and manipulated the criteria so he could justify placing
a couple of particular favorites way too high. Justin Hawkins was
going to be a top ten along with corey tayler until the outcry was
so great. Of course---wait till the next update.
tjackson
- Monday, April 04, 2005 at 10:11:05 (EDT)
I could understand Bon Scott being ahead of Corey Taylor, but
definately not Cobain man. Also, what did Hetfield do on stage that
was so amazing? Pretty much everytime I've seen him on stage he is
playing the guitar down by his knees, yelling into the mic, that's it.
Billy
- Monday, April 04, 2005 at 09:47:29 (EDT)
Fred Durst has been placed 51 spots ahead of James Hetfield.No
disrespect to whoever made this list who has no doubt put in loads
of work maintaining it,but-what the ****?James Hetfield may not be
one of the greatest vocalists but he is so amazing on stage!
Definitely top 40 material unlike Fred Durst who should be 99 at
best.Corey at #24 ahead of Bon Scott and Kurt Cobain is also quite
unbelievable.
Rahul K
Kuwait - Monday, April 04, 2005 at 08:20:49 (EDT)
top 5 should look like this...
1. Mick Jagger (Rolling Stones)
2. David Lee Roth (Van Halen)
3. Roger Daltry (The Who)
4. Bruce Dickinson (Iron Maiden)
5. Steven Tyler (Aerosmith)
and for the hell of it...
6. Joe Elliot (Def Leppard)
no questions asked
Max
- Monday, April 04, 2005 at 03:09:08 (EDT)
This list screwed up after the last update. jagger is a good #1 but
some of the choices are stupid, Ozzy not in top 10, Fred Durst
higher than james hetfield. Corey Taylor #24? Cmon most people here
could do a much better list.
Sergio
- Monday, April 04, 2005 at 00:19:41 (EDT)
i agree with u Rahul, I also think this list went sour. Elvis was
no.1, the mercury was 2, plant was 3, and hawkins was 99. Now, evlis
is 5, mercury is 4, and plant is behind hawkins at 32 and 33
respectively. The title should definately be given to Mercury,
because he truly was the best at what he did. And get Justin Hawkins
outta here, he just is wearing catsuits that bowie and mercury
already wore.
basser
- Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 22:25:16 (EDT)
Cobain often wore womens' dresses on stage and once even wore a
tiara on his head.Sure it's ****ing weird,but weirdness plays a big
part in rock.Remember Bon Scott and Robert Plant?They looked plain
gay on stage with their exposed chests and brightly-coloured
sleeveless jackets,but are still fondly remembered for that!Cobain's
frocks and dresses provided a change from the standard black leather
jackets and jeans of rock bands at the time.As for 'use of
stage',well I take that back.He was alright at best on stage.I
concede that.However I think he more than satisfies the other
criteria,more so than many frontmen placed ahead of him on this
list..
Rahul K
Kuwait - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 19:11:27 (EDT)
i think its wierd how much some of these ppl went down. although
most of em i agree with. cuz plant really isnt the best frontman. or
top 10 frontman cuz he would make things sound a lot different on
stage. and not ina good way. he was also a little "fruity" on stage,
but zeppelin couldnt have done it with out him. for the most part
this list is really good. except les claypool and james hetfield
need tp go up. they are awsome live. les is hilarious and james just
really gets u goin.
d-merk
- Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 17:11:22 (EDT)
About Cobain,
Costume? Use of Stage? Elaborate.
Gloick
Wales - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 17:09:39 (EDT)
dazed and confused.
I agree with what you said about Syd Barrett.He was one of the most
talented songwriters of the last century but as you said,went mad
during concerts and often refused to play or played something
totally unrelated to what the rest of the band were playing.David
Gilmour was a much better frontman.Not one of the greatest,but
definitely better than Barrett.
Also,I agree with swedishspeedmetal when he says that Fred Durst
doesn't deserve to be on the list.Durst quite simply sucks!
Thirdly,Kurt Cobain should be much higher than #35.If I read
right,"These are the greatest frontmen of rock, picked solely on the
criteria of Audience
Participation, Antics, Costume, Charisma and Use Of Stage.
Originality is also considered."
LOL how many frontmen of rock could better Cobain at any of these
criteria?Audience participation.Antics.Costume.Charisma.Use Of
Stage.Originality.Need I say more?Cobain was an awesome frontman.If
it wasn't for his proficiency at the listed criteria,Nirvana
wouldn't have been half as popular as a live act!
Rahul K
Kuwait - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 16:36:56 (EDT)
Don't forget Matt Bellamy also a classical pianist...and he is
writing some of the best music in a long time...every song on
Absolution is a masterpiece...
jarrod
- Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 15:30:45 (EDT)
I like Muse, but Matt Bellamy isnt a great frontman by any standards.
willdeharp
- Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 15:06:41 (EDT)
Matt Bellamy is unbelievable. Unbelievably average, like most
guitarists/vocalists.
Gloick
Wales - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 14:56:08 (EDT)
Get Fred Durst off the list. If Limp Bizkit came and played where I
lived everyone'd try to kill Fred Durst. Everyone hates him.
swedishspeedmetal
- Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 14:36:13 (EDT)
All I have to say is - wait til MUSE takes over america...Matt
Bellamy is unbelievable!
jarrod
- Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 14:35:53 (EDT)
Bruce, When did Morrison blow Jagger off the stage?
Al, Weiland was probably better than Astbury in that, but now,
Astbury is better at pretending to be Jim. Neither of them succeed
well, though.
willdeharp
- Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 11:36:32 (EDT)
"These are the greatest frontmen of rock, picked solely on the
criteria of Audience Participation, Antics, Costume, Charisma and Use
Of Stage. Originality is also considered."
Sadly, this isn't based on voice at all.
Gloick
Wales - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 10:06:19 (EDT)
I think HOWARD JONES of KILLSWITCH ENGAGE should be on the list, he
has a powerful voice.
e
e, ee e - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 06:45:10 (EDT)
Correction - "Nighttime" should read "Afternoon"
Gloick
Wales - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 06:00:30 (EDT)
I didn't get the Fred Durst April Fool's thing. Mostly because it was
April 2nd, nighttime.
Al, for Axl Rose check out:
The Ritz 88 and,
St Louis 91
These were both great shows and just look at all the crowd interaction
at the end of St Louis.
Gloick
Wales - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 05:56:06 (EDT)
Rahul K,
I agree with a lot of your comments keep them up!
John
Sydney, - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 04:48:31 (EDT)
How are you going to put Iggy Pop higher than Daltrey, Plant,
Cobain, and Axl Rose?
Nick
Illinois - Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 03:27:01 (EDT)
Robert Plant needs to go back to the top 10.
Also, Jim Morrison once blew Mick Jagger off the stage. Best frontman
my ass. Jim is the rightful #1 spot.
Bruce
- Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 01:56:32 (EST)
syd barrett higher than david gilmour??? syd barrett went insane and
refused to play during shows of pink floyd. thats probally not going
to make a good frontman. then gilmour entered the pink floyd scene
as the frontman and pink floyds success shot off from there. david
gilmour deserves to be higher.
dazed and confused
- Sunday, April 03, 2005 at 00:45:53 (EST)
Everyone, have any of you seen the footage of The Doors reunion with Scott Weiland at the
helm? IT'S AMAZING. Weiland was probably channeling Jim Morrison or something. You
could tell Manzarek new it was something special too, just from the look on his face. Break
On Through (To th other side), was just astounding. All those naughty people who use
Limewire can get it pretty easily, and those of you who dont, go find someone who does! I
don't think it's available for sale...
Al
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 19:06:48 (EST)
Seamus, yup :-)
Al
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 18:38:22 (EST)
Was the whole shutting down the forums thing an april fools joke by lew?
Seamus
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 17:25:20 (EST)
Everyone, the fred durst thing was an April Fool's joke. Spose we didnt get it?
Al
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 16:51:47 (EST)
Vedder has been grossly over-rated...he is extremely talented but
his stage presence leaves much to be desired.There is no way Vedder
was a better frontman than Bon Scott,Robert Plant,Kurt
Cobain,Bono,Cornell,Hetfield....
Rahul K
Kuwait - Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 15:45:08 (EST)
Seamus, you sure as hell dont make it sound like its an opinion. Maybe
you should try actually stating that its your opinion first, then get
into your know-it-all rants.
Billy
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 14:50:38 (EST)
Al.....Thanks for the thoughtful reply. I'm glad you appreciate Ian
Anderson, but we probably disagree a bit on Janis Joplin. Hey,
civil and interesting discussion is what this message board is
intended for, so I very much appreciate your comments. Baskin-
Robbins has 31 flavors for a reason, don't they? :-)
Seriously, I do hope you take the time to watch the Midnight Oil
videos that I referenced below....as I would be very interested in
your comments regarding Peter Garrett.... It is obvious to me that
you give careful consideration and attention to all the performers
discussed here, respecting their forms of expressing their craft.
stalyon
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 14:43:39 (EST)
I have no problems really with seamus or billy but seamus you are
pretty cocky when it comes to this list. Although you know this,
this list is not the bible, you coming and editing it wont make
other people change their minds. Like when Al put corey taylor in
the top 25 did you think I believe it? Hell no corey taylor is far
from 24 in my mind.
Al, I have a question when you made this list without solos you had
Hawkins in the top 10 and corey taylor around like 15. Then solo
acts came in and Hawkins is now below taylor? What happend?
Andy
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 14:41:54 (EST)
Your right Billy, I'm stating what I think is right. It's called an opinion. Look into
that.
Seamus
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 14:20:35 (EST)
I don't consider Roger Waters to be a great frontman. Musically,
he's one of the best, but this list has nothing to do with musical
talnet. He is not very close to the audience, and sang all about it
in "Comfortably Numb." (If you think that song is just about drugs,
read carefully, and give up the notion that all rock songs are about
drugs). And he doesn't really make great use of the stage, it's
really the light show that goes on at all the PF concerts that do
that.
Willard
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 14:08:10 (EST)
"Hendrix, Jerry Lee Lewis, Paul Rodgers, Jackie Wilson, Frank Zappa, Roger
Waters, Eric Purdon, Prince, Screamin' Jay Hawkins, and alot more are
all too
low. While guys like Iggy Pop, Axl Rose, Kennan, De La Rocha, Vedder
(someone who doesn't move.), Nicks, Taylor, Hawkins, Weiland, Kiedes,
Manson, Lemmy, and Jonathan Davis are all too high. Fred Durst should
never have made the list. I think that if you tweaked the criteria, to say
commanding the stage instead of use, you'd have a much better list.
You also
completely forgot Stage Presence."
I just dont get it man, you say youre modest but then you criticize
Al's every move. And how is Axl Rose too high? Explain that one.
Billy
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 13:54:58 (EST)
Seamus- How is Fred Durst not a good frontman? He has great use of the
stage, great crown reaction, great charisma, trademark costume. The
same with Corey Taylor. You say that i'm overlooking legends, bullshit
am I overlooking legends, I just feel that there are great frontmen of
today that should be recognized.
And as far as me not being a big Queen fan, im not going to tell you
over and over again, its pointless. I dont own a single Queen album.
The Stones are better songwriters, Queen are better musicians. The
Doors are below both (but not by too far). And you do think that what
you say is fact because you are stating that the Doors are better as a
fact, and that is just up to the listener.
Don't try to say youre modest, everything you say comes off as "Al,
youre terrible, let me edit the list because I know everything." I'm
sure that's not your intentions but you should read some of your own
damn comments. Like "Why is Elvis at 5? When he truly is #1. Why
below Mercury?
Joplin should score highly in your criteria, She connected with the
audience
really well. She didn't move alot and have alot of antics. But she had a
shitload of charisma. She commanded the stage very well. She didn't
have to
move! She also had some pretty cool clothes.
I move that your last comment about taylor and cooper be stricken from the
record cause it makes you come across as an idiot."
How is that modest in the least bit? there you go stating what you
think is right. I am just guessing that you have never paid any
attention to Slipknot and you are judging them by the kind of music
they play, which is bullshit.
Billy
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 13:52:01 (EST)
Thats supposed to be Eric Burdon, not Purdon.
Tjackson,
I must say you were right about Rodgers he is awesome, so slick and
everything, it's amazing.
Seamus
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 13:14:50 (EST)
Al,
Honestly I meant no offense and I can understand you taking some. "Save it"
was probally the wrong choice of words. I don't think I know everything about
frontmen, I just think I know alot, and aside from a few guys, I really have no
bias for anyone, and i thought i could edit this list fairly. But you said no, so
what am i gonna do.
Anyways on the list at hand,
Why is Elvis at 5? When he truly is #1. Why below Mercury?
Joplin should score highly in your criteria, She connected with the audience
really well. She didn't move alot and have alot of antics. But she had a
shitload of charisma. She commanded the stage very well. She didn't have to
move! She also had some pretty cool clothes.
I move that your last comment about taylor and cooper be stricken from the
record cause it makes you come across as an idiot. Which I'm pretty sure you
aren't.
Hendrix, Jerry Lee Lewis, Paul Rodgers, Jackie Wilson, Frank Zappa, Roger
Waters, Eric Purdon, Prince, Screamin' Jay Hawkins, and alot more are all too
low. While guys like Iggy Pop, Axl Rose, Kennan, De La Rocha, Vedder
(someone who doesn't move.), Nicks, Taylor, Hawkins, Weiland, Kiedes,
Manson, Lemmy, and Jonathan Davis are all too high. Fred Durst should
never have made the list. I think that if you tweaked the criteria, to say
commanding the stage instead of use, you'd have a much better list. You also
completely forgot Stage Presence.
Everyone who hates Fred Durst,
Don't blame Al so much he was just trying to make a good list. Blame Billy
he's the one who kept pushing for him. Billy you can take that as offensive,
because you are an asshole to me for no reason. I must say I take nothing you
say seriously. You constantly chime in with support for Mercury, claiming to
not be some big Queen fan, but you say that Queen is better than The Rolling
Stones, better songwriters than The Doors. You constantly support modern
artists overlooking great legends. The second I mentioned my age you came
in acting all Macho-Superior, but still have yet to really say anything thats
gonna really contribute to these conversations. You attacked me twice about
coming to these sites, when you do just as much. I just thought I'd do this
because I'm sick of you. I don't think what I say is fact, and actually I'm quite
modest, I think I know enough to get by.
Alex,
I thought you were just a brainwashed Queen fan, but I must say i have
gained quite a bit of respect for you. Thanks for the kind words.
Tjackson,
I'm terrified.
Seamus
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 13:12:10 (EST)
SYD BARRETT, ROGER DALTRY AND DAVID GILMOUR ARE THE BEST
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- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 12:09:12 (EST)
how can daltrey be 12 if he held a top three spot for almost nine
months
Jamie
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 11:47:36 (EST)
Ok, that's weird. Fred Durst was number 1 with Jagger nowhere to be
found, I refresh the page and its back to normal.
Gloick
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 09:50:59 (EST)
Fred Durst at number 1! What's happened?
Gloick
- Saturday, April 02, 2005 at 09:49:43 (EST)
Michael, Shock rockers have been far more influenced by Kiss, than by Bowie. Bowie didn't
really shock, he was more showy.
In terms of the criteria, Taylor scores higher. Sure, Cooper did the shock rock thing before
anyone, but people like Taylor took it to another level and originated traits of their own. So
basically, it boils down to who does it better, not who does it first and less superiorly.
Al
- Friday, April 01, 2005 at 07:58:49 (EST)
Stalyon, no unfortunately I havent seen Rundgren do an electric show, but I will endeavour
to get some footage and review it.
Stalyon, I think that music and live shows are far too varied to make a case for whether the
frontman makes the band. Look at The Rolling Stones, Jagger definately makes the band
what it is, they just couldnt have another frontman. Where as with The Beatles and The
Beach Boys, they didnt have a frontman, but are still amazing.
I agree that Anderson is low at 23 and I'm thinkin he'll be raised.
Joplin, in terms of my criteria, didnt do all that well. She was an amazing singer but nothing
else. She relied entirely on her voice in terms of holding an audience, but really didnt put on
a show as such....
Al
- Friday, April 01, 2005 at 07:54:33 (EST)
Also Al, have you realised that basically shock rockers antics mainly
copy off two people, Alice Cooper and maybe David Bowie. So how the
hell can you put the far less original Corey Taylor above Alice
Cooper? And to put Corey Taylor above Paul Stanley, who led one of
the greatest live shows ever, is another insult. And even if Taylor
is 'amazing' on stage has this become legendary? Has he been
countlessly imitated? Or is he the imitator?
Michael
- Friday, April 01, 2005 at 07:36:49 (EST)
Just wondering....has anybody ever seen Todd Rundgren do an electric
show? He can be pretty amazing.....singing, playing and DANCING!
Also.....for me, when I review the list.....I ask myself, given the
music, the band, the style, etc....does the frontman actually make
the group or not? Clearly all in the list and the honorable mention
are all outstanding.....but I try to go a little deeper. For
example, I think Ian Anderson is far too low at #23.....and it's
really hard for me to understand Janis Joplin at #100.
I count 27 of the top 100 that I've been fortunate to have seen live
and I must say that, for my money, Jon Bon Jovi is way too highly-
ated.
stalyon
- Friday, April 01, 2005 at 07:32:42 (EST)
How the hell did Justin Hawkins beat Robert Plant...and How in hell
is Freddie Mercury LESS than Mick Jagger?!?!??!?!?
Matt
- Friday, April 01, 2005 at 04:45:14 (EST)
Holy shit, Jay, you're fucking retarded.
Steven
New Zealand - Friday, April 01, 2005 at 03:47:57 (EST)
Piss off Jay. What music do you like some butch, red neck band.
Matt
- Friday, April 01, 2005 at 03:09:25 (EST)
And Australian's are all convicts
Matt
- Friday, April 01, 2005 at 03:07:15 (EST)
Um, if you're not going to Roger Daltrey in the Top 10, could he at
least be placed above David Lee Roth. Daltrey was a way better
frontman with a better stage presence, more energy, and a way better
voice than Roth.
Stan
- Friday, April 01, 2005 at 01:39:40 (EST)
your all gay freddie mercury is a fag
tim
warrnambool, vic australia - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 21:21:15 (EST)
hey s.c., the first image i get when you say queen is that of a
screwed up bunch of fudgepackers who are the most overated band in
history. their music added nothing to rock history--they totally
sucked and they are musically and historically impotent. freddy
mercury and queen are the annoying and irrelevent bastards of rock.
you queen loving maggots will say anything to promote freddy into the
elite. on the piano site they actually have him listed. on a
classical pianist site, one of these morons call him a great
pianists. i am a pianist who can stretch 10 chords. freddy wouldnt
make it as a club keyboardist. he tinkered with piano an by no means
did he posess any skill-- but you queen loving turd burglars will say
anything to make up for what he didnt have---TALENT. so how about you
queen queers just shut up and go buff yer hootskies.
jay
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 21:08:57 (EST)
hey this is Scott Weiland put me at # 34 please I dont think im that
good...thanks ill give you free tickets to the next velvet revolver
concert
scott weiland
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 20:26:29 (EST)
Bon Scott at number 1.he had great antics,costumes(tight jeans,goofy
looking belly shirts,he once wore a school girl outfit-lol!and has an
amazing(and unique)voice to throw on top of that.he's the best part
AC/DC ever had.first him,then angus,then brian.Bon is a poet and a
legend.listen to AC/DC's older songs.they aren't just about sex,a lot
of it is personal and emotional singing such as:Rocker,Rock 'n Roll
Singer,show business,high voltage(when he says"one night stand"he's
talking a gig,not having a one nightstand with a chick)and then the
softer;"Ride On".
Mee
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 20:14:58 (EST)
Rahul and Micheal, have you seen any slipknot footage? or are you just going on prejudice?
Alex, saying that he is going to "save it" is completely arrogant and enfuriating, as well as
REPEATEDLY asking to take over the list.
Rahul, videos, or live footage?
Al
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 19:35:53 (EST)
JAMES HETFIELD SHOULD BE HIGHER!!! AND SO SHOULD CHRIS CORNELL!!!
kevin
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 18:17:19 (EST)
come on, it's gotta be freddie mercury.
think of it this way, when you talk about Queen, what is the very
first image you see in your head?
HIM AT LIVE AID.
S.C.
Glasgow, The West Scotland - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 15:38:31 (EST)
This is absolutely crazy-FRED DURST has been placed in front of
Bono,Gillan,Cornell,Tate,Elliot,Hagar,Barrett,Gilmour,Hetfield,Waters,
Grohl,Klaus Meine,Liam Gallagher.....I'm stunned.He doesn't deserve
to grace the top 100,let alone top 40!
Rahul K
Kuwait - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 15:27:30 (EST)
I have seen enough of Corey's videos to conclude that he doesn't
deserve to be in the top 30,while Bon Scott definitely should be in
the top 20,as should Kurt Cobain.
Rahul K
Kuwait - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 15:22:48 (EST)
Hi Seamus, thanks for the reply. Hmmm, we had our disagreements at 1st
on this page, but I've built respect for you, you do know what you are
on about, you have a wise head on your shoulders for someone our age.
Therefore you can't be British! Lol, sorry, that is kinda led on from
something I said that got to tjackson which wasn't meant to be
offensive to Americans, it was in reference to Americans not realising
Queen were huge outside the USA. I guess what I said came across the
wrong way though, I apologise for that. However, I think Al is doing a
good job of this list personally, I don't think you should have said
what you said, but you hardly said it in a bad way really.
Freddie I am happy where he is on the main list, although I'd like to
see him higher, I like the fact he is in the top 5.
Alex
Leeds UK, - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 15:09:11 (EST)
Freddie Mercury was a lead frontman for the AIDS benefit relief
program. Move Ozzy up damnit. He's still fronting for Rock n' Roll.
Str8
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 14:37:35 (EST)
Ese ranking me la chupa, como ponen a Halford en el puesto 51? este
ranking seguro lo hicieron los malditos yankees, CONCHASUMAREs!!
Eddyqpr
Lima, Peru - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 14:22:27 (EST)
Davis Lee Roth behind Steve Tyler and Tina Turner? What the heck?
This list has now become a joke.
Gazz
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 13:14:05 (EST)
DUDE,
this list makes me wanna cry. IT SUCKS. REALLY BAD. YOU NEEDTO CRAWL
INTO A HOLE AND NOT COME OUT !! (not really). EDIT THIS.Durst
SUCKS.Hetfieldis WAY better !! AAHH !!!!
Ryan
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 12:49:36 (EST)
So seamus----better watch you step i guess with al's
threats---lol---big brother is watching so better not suggest new
editor---geez.
I know jackie wilson---just didnt know if /wilson referred to jackie,
anne, or a beach boy.
I musta missed van zandt or i would have said something. nd i
will continue to fight for paul Rogers. the smoothest, all the right
moves, front man that ever lived. and he hits every note perfect
every time it seems
tjackson
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 10:08:44 (EST)
Get Mustaine on the list, man! He's so cool!
Kizak
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 09:51:19 (EST)
Corey Taylor is an amazing frontman, he definately deserves the top 25,
but so does Bon Scott. You guys should actually watch some of Taylor's
work before you say shit about him.
Billy
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 09:42:06 (EST)
I agree...there is no way Corey should be above Bon Scott.Corey
doesn't even deserve to be in the top 50,while Bon Scott should be in
the top 20.And James Hetfield at 92???I think if you reverse those
digits it would be more appropriate.Also,Axl should be in the top 10
while Kurt Cobain DEFINITELY deserves a place in the top 15!!And
Seamus,yes Roger Waters was the frontman of Pink Floyd,but after he
left,David Gilmour assumed the role of frontman(as you can see in
Pulse)
Rahul K
Kuwait - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 08:33:04 (EST)
I agree...there is no way Corey should be above Bon Scott.Corey
doesn't even deserve to be in the top 50,while Bon Scott should be in
the top 20.And James Hetfield at 92???I think if you reverse those
digits it would be more appropriate.Also,Axl should be in the top 10
while Kurt Cobain DEFINITELY deserves a place in the top 15!!
Rahul K
Kuwait - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 08:31:56 (EST)
Al, tell me why Corey Taylor is above Bon Scott? Is it Taylor's mask?
His antics? Guess what, Bon Scott often donned the school uniform,
which is far superior to Taylor's pathetic mask. You want antics? Are
you telling me getting your guitarist to climb on your shoulders and
walking through the audience while a smoke satchel streams from his
back is more memorable than Taylor's crap? And why the hell is Fred
Michael
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 07:51:17 (EST)
Al, tell me why Corey Taylor is above Bon Scott? Is it Taylor's mask?
His antics? Guess what, Bon Scott often donned the school uniform,
which is far superior to Taylor's pathetic mask. You want antics? Are
you telling me getting your guitarist to climb on your shoulders and
walking through the audience while a smoke satchel streams from his
back? And why the hell is Fred Durst here?
Michael
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 07:50:01 (EST)
thanks Billy
Al
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 05:43:01 (EST)
Andy,
that was a joke, smart ass. Because all those Mercury fans don't give
any reasons, I also didn't.
Doc
Holland - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 04:33:16 (EST)
Seamus- dude you really need to get over yourself, asking to edit this
list is extremely disrespectful, telling Al how his criteria should
be, just absolutely arrogant. Accept the fact that this is AL'S LIST,
if you dont like it then why dont you leave. Everyone has their own
opinions, just because you dont agree doesnt give you the right to
think what you say is fact.
Billy
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 03:46:03 (EST)
Thanks Josh
Chris, thanks
Muriel, you tell me why he should be above those guys. and it's "De La Rocha"
Al
- Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 03:10:11 (EST)
How is Ray Davies not ranked in the top 100 let alone the top 50 and
some loser like Joey Ramone or Zack De La "whatever his name is" is
#21?
Muriel
St. Louis, MO - Thursday, March 31, 2005 at 02:16:55 (EST)
the voice, the charisma, and most importantly the ability to write
great rock and roll: david lee roth oh yeah. makes sammy hagar look
like.....i dunno, but something bad. DLR is #1!
chris
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 23:36:18 (EST)
#1 David Lee Roth
#2 Axl Rose
Josh
pittsburgh, - Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 22:22:27 (EST)
Seamus, after Roger Waters left, Dave Gimour became the FRONTMAN to
Pink Floyd. he did vocals, therefore frontman.
Al
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 22:21:56 (EST)
Seamus, no u may not edit this list and it's extremely arrogant and
disrespectful to ask. So if you ask again, then it will be the end of
our correspondence.
Al
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 21:59:21 (EST)
how come billy joe armstrong from green day isnt on this list i have
seen slipknot and green day live and armstrong was a better front man
then corey taylor but taylor is up at 24.
KCM
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 21:40:01 (EST)
Brad, I want Freddie at number 1, I dont know what your talking
about. And james brown is awesome
Andy
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 20:58:38 (EST)
How about his stage presence Andy. Freddie Mercury can make your
crippled mother get up out of her chair. That's more than you can say
for damn JAMES BROWN.... what the hell, this isn't a Soul list. You
people are too pretentious.
Brad
Homewood, AL - Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 20:47:20 (EST)
To all those guys who think Mercury should be #1: GIVE GOOD
REASONS!!!!
PS. Mick Jagger is the only real #1. He always be. Just because.
Doc
Holland - Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 17:24:16 (EST)
Doc, your a hypocrite... GIVE REASONS!!!
Andy
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 19:22:48 (EST)
Seamus please stop... This forum has gone to hell. Stop thinking your
the best editor when it comes to frontmen. We all would have
different lists you know? Al's is just alot more different. I agree
with all to some extent on things too I mean how can people these
days truly become 'great' if we dont give them a chance? If everyone
just opened their minds more this whole site would be much less of a
thorn in our asses (cause we all know sometimes we get pissed and
want to stop posting but for some reason we never do). Also the
arguement for it taking time to be 'great' is pretty weak although I
know i was part of it, but if you seriously think about it you cant
tell me when the rolling stones were in the 60's people werent saying
Mick was one of the greatest, same with Mercury, Plant, Ozzy, and
pretty much every good frontman...
Andy
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 19:18:39 (EST)
One thing i just realized.
Al,
Why is David Gilmour on the list along with Roger Waters, who to my
knowledge was the frontman. If you put Gilmour on the list, then put
Townshend on.
Seamus
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 18:12:54 (EST)
I'm gonna try again.
Round 2: Electric Boogaloo
1.Elvis
2.Brown
3.Berry
4.Jagger
5.Morrison
6.Mercury
7.Hendrix
8.Daltrey
9.Roth
10.Plant
11.Jerry Lee Lewis
12.Springsteen
13.Cooper
14.Tyler
15.Jackie Wilson
16.Dickinson
17.Prince
18.Lennon
19.Ozzy
20.Zappa
21.Ramone
22.Pop
23.Rodgers
24.Marley
25.Little Richard
26.Burdon
27.Screamin' Jay Hawkins
28.Halford
29.Redding
30.Scott
31.Gillan
32.Bowie
33.Slick
34.McCartney
35.Stanley
36.Allin
37.Rotten
38.Anderson
39.Rose
40.Dylan
41.Sly Stone
42.Hutchence
43.Van Zandt
44.Patton
45.Keenan
46.Harry
47.Dio
48.Johnson
49.Ghallager
50.Strummer
Alex,
No i don't play drums, actually I'm the lead singer to a band me and my friend
started. I used to play guitar but dropped it after about a year cause i just wasn't
interested in it. I did want to play drums for a really long time, because of
Ringo, but never enough to pursue it. My favourite bassline would have to be
Thank ya fa lettin me be myself by Sly and The Family Stone and my favourite
vocal performance is Love Rein O'er me by The Who and Grace by Jeff
Buckley. My favourite Drums is Light My Fire because they fit so perfectly.
Mike,
Shut up.
Doc,
Theres no real reason for Jagger to be over Elvis either. Jagger really got
kicked up there when all was taking out the "soloists" and for some reason
stayed there. I must say you really only seem to like this list because he's #1.
But good point nonetheless they never have given a good reason.
tJackson,
It's Jackie Wilson, He was a soul singer. Who was simply put, amazing. He
actually died from performing so hard, he was dancing on stage, and passed
out into a coma for 8 years and never woke up. Guess he needed a nap huh?
Plant should deffinetley be higher but the top 5 is pretty set, it's just a matter of
arranging names, but he could move up more on my list. I'm surprised you
didn't call me on not adding Van Zandt, I added him, and when I have some
more time I'll move him up. Jerry Lee Lewis was renowned for kicking out his
piano chair and dancing, he also to my knowledge destroyed his piano. I just
recently saw the Live at The Isle of Wright Dvd and saw some footage of
Rodgers with Free, and you were right, He kicks ass. I actually would consider
seeing him with Queen if they came near me.
Al,
I was really thinking about it and you honestly need to rethink your criteria. I
don't want to sound pretentious or anything but I honestly think I could do this
list some good, may I please edit it?
Ronald,
Read back a bit.
Anyways,
I'm open to critiscms and everything, so just keep it coming.
I'd really like to know if I forgot anyone or placed someone to high or low.
Seamus
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 18:09:41 (EST)
To all those guys who think Mercury should be #1: GIVE GOOD
REASONS!!!!
PS. Mick Jagger is the only real #1. He always be. Just because.
Doc
Holland - Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 17:24:16 (EST)
wow. this is the crappiest list. how the hell is robert plant 33.
rite next to kurt cobain. kurt shouldnt even be on this list.
hetfield at 92. gilmour at 81. alice cooper should not be 30. and y
the hell is Bono even on this list.this is crap
fetus
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 17:17:40 (EST)
Duane Peters of U.S. Bombs (& Die Hunns & Gunfight & Exploding F'ckdolls)
is the most intense frontman I've ever seen. Maybe not better than Iggy
(but then I've never been to an Iggy show, hard to say) but better than
everyone else.
Glenn Danzig should move up. I'm only a moderate Misfits fan,
but he is the defining influence of what a frontman should be for
every hardcore band that came after.
Eddie Spaghetti of the Supersuckers should certainly be on the list,
if perhaps in the middle.
How abot not listing Tom Kiefer twice?
And if you're giving Kiefer and Lawless "honorable mentions", how about one
for Brett Michaels too?
Please do NOT add Jerry Garcia--he was a great guitarist, mediocre singer, and nearly
charisma-free onstage.
Roger
San Diego, CA United States - Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 17:13:48 (EST)
*save
Ronald
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 17:04:28 (EST)
he's not a stupid idiot, he just listens to shitty new music and
can't go beyond his biase, that's why someone else should be the
editor and saves the credibility of this site.
Ronald
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 17:03:56 (EST)
Why in the fuck is Mick Jagger #1? If someone needs to be #1 it
should be ELVIS and #2 should be Jim Morrison Mick Jagger ain't
better than "The Lizard King" and who ever edited this list from
what it was is a stupid idiot
Andrew Sepulveda
Upland, CA USA - Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 15:47:27 (EST)
Alice Cooper should be number 1
Vince
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 13:37:30 (EST)
how the hell is robert plant and paul stanley in the 30s? and right
above kurt cobain?! hes not a frontman! he wines and complains on the
mic he cant even sing! paul stanley should be #1 and robert plant #2.
and vince neil and james hetfield are #89 and #92. thats ridiculous!!
you suck!
Andrew
taylor, tx usa - Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 12:41:45 (EST)
Swedishwankmetal, grow up, not everyone comes from the heart of rock,
gothenburg.......yes I am being sarcastic.
Luke
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 11:12:38 (EST)
Doc, being first does not make Jagger better than Mercury!
Matt
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 11:00:12 (EST)
Mercury should be number one, this list is a joke otherwise.
Matt
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 10:58:58 (EST)
johnny rotten should be higher and sid should atleast be an honorable
mention.
dan mullaney
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 08:18:33 (EST)
I have seen the following and believe they deserve mention:
David Byrne (Talking Heads)
Ted Nugent
Joan Jett
Gwen Stefani
All were EXTREME HIGH-ENERGY, in my opinion.
Since Prince is listed here....it made me think of Morris Day and The
Time.....he's tremendously animated and FUN to watch, I think.
Stalyon
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 08:16:55 (EST)
Sweedishmeatball- youre in idiot man, sexuality has nothing to do with
being a good frontman. Elton John was an amazing frontman, he was gay.
get over it.
Billy
- Wednesday, March 30, 2005 at 03:39:35 (EST)
Frisco you are an idot have you ever seen a video or seen the rolling
stones in concert. Than shut up yes elis should be number 2 and
Daltry3 but Jagger 1 always
Barry
newerk, nj usa - Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 22:44:11 (EST)
Stalyon, ok thanks I will
Bking, The Beatles didnt have a frontman, they were a group like The Beach Boys, not a
band like The Who
Al
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 22:36:36 (EST)
Roger Daltrey was a great frontman, deserves to be in the Top 10. The
only reason he doesn't get the right amount of recognition is he had
Townshend doing windmills and smashing his guitar along with Moon the
Loon kicking over his drumset over and blowing shit up.
Stan
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 22:28:42 (EST)
What? Mick Jaggar at Number 1?????? Here is the rightful list:
1. Freddie Mercury( Absolutely the best that ever lived.)
2. Elvis
3. Roger Daltry
4. Axl Rose
Kerstin Ohnysty
Frisco, TX USA - Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 22:16:24 (EST)
Stalyon,
I totally agree Peter Garrett definetley deserves a mention i was at
tha wave aid concert they headlined he was absolutely mesmirising even
after all these years
cameron
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 21:32:25 (EST)
1. Elvis Presley
2. John Lennon
3. Chuck Berry
4. Freddie Mercury (Queen)
5. Robert Plant (Led Zeppelin)
6. Mick Jagger (Rolling Stones)
7. Jimi Hendrix
8. Bruce Springsteen
9. Jim Morrison (The Doors)
10.Steven Tyler (Aerosmith)
J
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 19:43:55 (EST)
Well I think Freddie was always original in his shows, not only for
his costumes but for his creativity on the stage, he used to throw out
to the audience with huge quantities of roses and drinking champagne
being carried sometime by Superman, Darth Vader and Santa Claus.
He was a great influence for many artist after him.
Like I sayd I don't see any other frontmen which could match him
following the criteria above except of charisma althought he was
pretty much charismatic.
D.J
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 17:19:17 (EST)
you make it obvious you like swedishspeedmetal and its gross
Andy
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 17:00:44 (EST)
Freddie Mercury made his sexuality very obvious onstage. It was gross.
swedishspeedmetal
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 15:52:10 (EST)
Well, it doesn't really take talent to be a "good" frontman.
So the hell with Mick Jagger. Mercury should be #1
yep yep
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 14:44:35 (EST)
Mick Jagger #1?
The fuck with that!
yep yep
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 14:43:09 (EST)
How could you say that mercury was not original at all thats one of
the dumbest fucking things i have ever heard in my entire life
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 14:08:24 (EST)
Originality is a criteria as well---and Jagger was nothing if not
original-----Mercury was very good----but not orginal at all. Much
of this criteria on here stinks (Costume) and nothing for
influence---but at least originality is here. Most original fronts i
can think of is plant, morrison, Jagger, Daltrey, Kiss guys.Most
others just copied these masters. Add elvis, brown as influences
and there you go.
tjackson
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 13:37:31 (EST)
Doc- only one of those reasons that you listed actually gave an example
of something that Jagger did better. everything else was just eariler,
not better, just because he was before Mercury does not make him
better. People say that Mercury's stage antic's were stupid looking,
well they werent any more stupid looking that what Jagger was trying to
do on stage. (his weak attempt at dancing). If there is anyone to make
a case for being as good as Mercury is Jim Morrison.
Either way, Michael Jackson is the best performer of all time, hands down.
Billy
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 10:58:44 (EST)
bking,
fuck off. Everybody can make a mistake. The rest of the list is very
fine.
Doc
Holland - Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 10:31:38 (EST)
Thomas Nisbet,
why is Mercury better than Jagger? Give some reasons. I can give
many, many reasons why Jagger is a better frontman.
1. He was the first real frontman of a band
2. He was the first frontman that used the whole stage
3. He wore much more extra ordinary clothes than Mercury (especially
in the 70's)
4. He was earlier to have great contact with the audiance
etc, etc.
So Thomas, that's why Jagger is on #1. Nobody else belongs on that
spot.
Doc
Holland - Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 10:29:28 (EST)
Al.....if you would like to take a look, go here to see Peter Garrett
performing. This footage is very recent, with the band getting back
together after two years off just for this Tsunami relief
benefit.....which is so like Peter, as he truly cares about
humanity. To really see him in his prime, you might consider getting
the BEST OF BOTH WORLDS DVD from 1982 & 1985.....it's not yet
released in the USA, but I will surely own it when it comes out.
Anyway....check this out, if interested:
http://www.bigpondmusic.com.au/features/exclusive/waveaid.asp
Midnight Oil were the headliners, even after having been broke up for
about two years. They got back together just for this benefit.
Also....for pictures...go to www.midnightoil.com
Truly....I think you will agree that Garrett deserves mention
somewhere in the collection of frontmen.....at least, I think he does.
THANK YOU for your response to my original post and your interest.
Stalyon
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 09:47:21 (EST)
CHANGE THIS LIST SON OF YOUR FUCKIN MOTHER
BENITO
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 09:38:55 (EST)
Guava Munkee, I agree.
Must
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 09:36:26 (EST)
Freddie Mercury only number 4, he is definetly better that Jagger but
the other 2 I have not seen live so I cannot critisise them. Move
Freddie up!!!
Thomas Nisbet
Scotland - Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 07:46:03 (EST)
Fer chrissakes. Phil Lynott not even in the top 100. He had loads
more charisma and stage presence than most of the po-faced tossers in
this list.
Guava Munkee
- Tuesday, March 29, 2005 at 03:08:26 (EST)
Bking, the beatles are on this list
ANdy
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 23:42:25 (EST)
Hello again, everyone. I just recently got a look at this newest
revsvision. Very, very glad to see Jagger at #1. Took long enough,
didn't it? Having Morrison at #7 is wrong, I see him at #2 or #3. I
like Berry being so high though. It's about time he got the respect
he deserves. (to me, he's the original, true, king of rock 'n' roll).
Very glad to see Tyler in the Top 10. Move Van Zant to Top 10,
though. He's quite under-appreciated.
MORE COMMENTS TO COME, I'M SURE.
Midnight Rambler
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 22:25:34 (EST)
Al,
You removed the Beatles and you added Fred Durst, which was the
biggest mistake on this entire web site. You dont know what you are
doing, resign from your position. Nobody likes you.
bking
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 21:16:04 (EST)
Bring out Dave Mustaine! Awesome guitarist! Not good vocals, but the
cynical creepy voice is so awesome for thrash metal! Awesome frontman
as well!
iggyb387
NY, NY USA - Monday, March 28, 2005 at 21:10:37 (EST)
Fred Durst at 41!!!!What the hell are you smoking, he is arguably the
worst frontman of all time, with his infuriating backward cap and
plain annoying antics. How can you even put him on this list, let
alone place him above Halford, Gillan, Cornell, Dio, Staley, Brian
Johnson, Joe Strummer and many more?
mf
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 21:09:26 (EST)
I couldn't find John Lennon, so I don't know where he is on the list
or if he is there at al. But he should be HIGH! AND JIM MORRISON FOR
NUMBER ONE!
Bonham
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 19:57:02 (EST)
Silly little nigger black people.
Edu
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 18:49:52 (EST)
Mike that was an idiotic thing to say. Hendrix's guitar work is what
people remember him for, not his early death or skin color.
Robert Plant should be moved up a lot.
swedishspeedmetal
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 16:47:24 (EST)
*Slaps Mike upside the head* You fool...his style and image is world
reknowned. Everyone knows who Hendrix is for his MUSIC.
Budzsmoker
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 16:21:45 (EST)
I'm saying the only reason people love Hendrix so much is becuse he
almost died so many times. and hes black.
Mike
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 14:41:22 (EST)
ah ah ah, ah ah ah
I can't stop laughing
Fred Durst at 41, ah ah ah, ah ah ah.
He's above Bono, ah ah ah
He's above Gillan, ah ah ah
He's above Brian Johnson
c10
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 13:32:28 (EST)
Seamus---i think plant is at least top 5------Ozzy---way better than
22---tyler is a top 10, and Rogers way better than 30. thats the
glaring errors in my opinion
I dont understand why iggy Pop is rated so high---and which
wison---a beach boy---i dont see a front man in that group any
more than the beatles. And Lewis and zappa i disagree being
anywhere near that high
tjackson
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 11:06:55 (EST)
if he died tomorrow he might make the hon. mention list---just as
if he were alive. Hendrix was considered the world greatest
guitarist when he was alive---just as morrison was recognized as
one of the greats of rock. Scott i believe has been acclaimed a
little more as a result of his death---he is a little high to me.
Hawkins will be remembered in death as in life---not very well
known or respected
tjackson
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 10:58:27 (EST)
Al---the difference is the lasting influence---surely you wouldnt
deny that----they have been people that worked for 20 years that
werent any good---quality, not quantity. I would say hendrix, and
morrison especially-had a little more than hawkins
tjackson
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 10:55:57 (EST)
Hi Benito, are you ok?
Hey Seamus, I do play the drums. Been playing a year now and loving it.
Do you?
My favourite guitar riff is also Layla, and Money For Nothing by Dire
Straits. Favourite bassline is Crazy Little Thing Called Love by Queen,
favourite drum performance is Hey Jude by The Beatles (albeit easy),
and favourite vocal performance is Somebody To Love live at the Rose
Bowl by Queen again. If you do play the drums or are very interested in
them, then you should come and post on the greatest drummers page, some
very nice posters on there. I would personally have Dickinson at least
top 15 also.
Alex
Leeds UK, - Monday, March 28, 2005 at 10:38:42 (EST)
stalyon, interesting. I'll watch some footage.
Mike, take out every single name in your top ten, on account of they
did drugs. Actually, name me a top ten that didn't do drugs!
Al
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 06:09:07 (EST)
tjackson, no, all you have brought me is opinion again. Hawkins is
definately not unknown, with global tours, press and multi platinum albums.
"a person
should have to prove a lasting lasting power over time---either
through a body of work---or theough influence ." - these are the names
of people who had been going for about as long as Hawkins (according to
allmusic.com, that's now 5 yrs)...
1.Jim Morrison was only around for 6 yrs!!!
2.Jimi Hendrix - 4 years
3.Bon Scott - 6 years
Those are all who are above him. Whats the difference? They're dead? so
what? are his achievements in stagecraft lessened by the fact he's
still alive? What if he died tomoro? where would you put him?
Al
- Monday, March 28, 2005 at 06:05:14 (EST)
Mike, what does drug abuse have to do with this list? If Hendrix should
be disqualified because of drug abuse then what the hell is Elvis
Presley doing on your list?
Tim Eimiller
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 22:47:53 (EST)
I mean shit! some of this list I don't get. Jagger number 1? Why don't
you put Ashley Simpson as number 2 because of that wacky hoedown of her's?!
MetälliheaD
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 21:58:23 (EST)
justin Hawkings above Plant, Lemmy and hell pretty much everyone higher
than Sebastian Bach is a joke...and the hell's that douchebag durst
doing on here!?
MetälliheaD
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 21:51:19 (EST)
Seamus,You said you can take criticism so I hope you can.
Moving Mercury to 7th and putting Hendrix before him would be a
disgrace to music. Hendrix did drugs and almost died 2000 times. Wow
great frontman.
My top 5
1. Mercury
2. Jagger
3. Presley
4. Daltry
5. Brown
Mike
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 20:21:14 (EST)
Alex,
I'm going to move Dickinson up alot. He is amazing. I'd probally put Justin
Hawkins around 70, just to give him the opprotunity to move up but also see
how time fares with him. Again thanks.
Pearts my second favourite, right behind Moon, but only because of
sentimentality that comes with the intro to Baba O'reily, you know where the
drums come in, that's probally my favourite part of any song, ever. The intro to
Spirit of Radio is really cool though, the first time i heard it i was hooked. My
favourite riff is either Layla or Daytripper. You play drums right?
Seamus
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 17:26:22 (EST)
Hi Seamus, actually the more I look at it the better it looks. I'd have
Mercury at 5, Morrison 6 and Hendrix at 7, if your top 4 was kept the
same, I'd still move Dickinson up a little, and include Justin Hawkins
in there despite all the problems with what people think of him, and
its great.
The Spirit Of Radio for me has the best opening guitar riff of all
time, along with Sweet Child o' Mine and Smoke On The Water imo. Rush
are in my top 10 favourite bands, and Neil is my favourite drummer.
Alex
Leeds UK, - Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 17:02:01 (EST)
"Having Fred Durst in the top 50 causes this list to lose any credibility."
Too true. To the person who made this list...
You're a fucking moron.
JVan
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 16:41:11 (EST)
Having Fred Durst in the top 50 causes this list to lose any
credibility.
Dirk
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 15:01:18 (EST)
Tjackson and Alex,
Thanks. What do you disagree with, I'm all for changing the list.
Alex,
I'm in love with rush because of peart. I honestly can say Spirit of Radio is one
of my all time favourite songs, he is amazing.
Seamus
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 14:39:08 (EST)
Hi Seamus, I'm with tjackson, although I disagree on a few hings its
a great effort that list. For somebody our age to have seen all of
them is a hell of an achievement. I respect you for that. I like your
inclusion of Peart on the sidebar aswell. Isn't he a god on the
drums!?
Alex
Leeds UK, - Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 14:24:28 (EST)
I've seen them perform twice and I must say that I sincerely below
that Peter Garrett of Midnight Oil at least deserves mention. He
blew me away both times. He is close to 6'5" with a bald head and
his stage mechanics and body language are like nobody else. I'm
sorry to know that the Oil has broken up because Peter is now a
member of the Australian Parliament. btw....he cooks pretty good on
the harmonica......
stalyon
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 12:23:57 (EST)
Paul Stanley is the greatest. case closed.
Falcon45
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 12:03:41 (EST)
Seamus---i disagree with some of your placements of course---but at
least you are trying
Al----i will bring you some facts---Hawkins is pretty much an unknown
and to place him high is a joke(that much is an opinion.) a person
should have to prove a lasting lasting power over time---either
through a body of work---or through influence .
Please stop basing this list on personal prejudices
tjackson
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 11:43:59 (EST)
seamus,
Turner performed with the ike and tina turner band. Much of her best
work was with them, and they always played with her up on the stage.
Only in the later days did she use dancers.
fridge
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 09:54:32 (EST)
Andy, thanks for your comments.
Like I say, it's not in my power to separate the lists, so I cant.
The thing with Rose, is that he had a hell of alot of charisma and stage usage. Thats what
gives him his spot.
Al
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 02:22:10 (EST)
nevermind their is alreayd that list. What was i thinking?
Andy
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 02:10:47 (EST)
Al, Question. What do you think Lew or whoever is incharge would
think of a greatest lyrical song's? Is their a list for that already
Andy
St. Louis, - Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 02:10:14 (EST)
I think Axl Rose should be dropped. Probably aroudn 30 or something.
I know many people want him higher than he his but thats just
ludacris. I mean, originality. I really dont see it he tried to be a
badass but really wasn't. Many people were badasses before him. I
wouldnt even consider him an 'entertainer' as everyone else on this
list entertained much better. Everything else though he did pretty
good in except audience participation. That was average.
Andy
St. Louis, - Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 02:01:05 (EST)
I think you need 2 different lists (I know the administrators dont
want it) but it would be so much easier. Seamus, Your list is good
just freddie mercury si much better than 7 and easily better than
hendrix. Your saying al's criteria is stupid about running around and
stuff when you think yours should be people just being 'cool'. What
you need to do is incorporate both and get the greatest not just one
or the other. Get what i'm saying? it might be rather confusing
ANdy
St. Louis, - Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 01:56:43 (EST)
one last thing,
top 5 most entertaining "sidemen"
1.Pete Townshend (The Who)
2.Keith Moon (The Who)
3.Angus Young (Ac/Dc)
4.Jimmy Page (Led Zeppelin)
5.Neil Peart (Rush)
Also,
on my list you'll notice i excluded Turner and didn't put Jackson on it. That's
simple because they are simply solists. They go on stage and there is no band
on stage with them, usually just dancers or something.
Seamus
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 01:28:15 (EST)
Seamus, No, just because you don't like this list, doesn't mean it's wrong. Don't be so
arrogant as to say you're going to "save it".
Al
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 01:26:32 (EST)
Ok EVERYONE!, I'm sick to death of people coming on this list and making these comments
with no grounding. I'm also sick of all the mudslinging that goes on here!, from now on,
unless your comment is uninsulting, I won't answer it at all. Plus, if u ask for a change, you
must provide reasoning....
Al
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 01:24:13 (EST)
but on a serious note.
Al,
You need to change the criteria. It favors a few frontmen unfairly, and leaves
alot of deserving frontmen like little richard and jerry lee lewis below jokes like
hawkins. I propose you go with a criteria that tjackson suggested a while back.
"the ability to control,manipulate, the audience--maintain their attention"
I don't think running around makes someone a good frontman, it makes them
entertaining, but overall it actually, imo, weakens them. I am more impressed
by someone like morrison or lennon or paul rodgers, someone who is just
plain and simple, Cool. Someone who is like the embodiement of rock and roll,
rock like it used to be were kids couldn't get enough and parents were afraid of.
Change the criteria. Please.
Thought i'd be polite.
So i could ask this,
Al could i take over the duties of editing this page to try and save it? I don't want
this to come across as mean or anything, i like you, just this revision was
honestly terrible.
Here's what i'd do.
1.Elvis
2.Brown
3.Berry
4.Jagger
5.Morrison
6.Hendrix
7.Mercury
8.Daltrey
9.Roth
10.Springsteen
11.Lee Lewis
12.Zappa
13.Cooper
14.Tyler
15.Wilson
16.Pop
17.Prince
18.Little Richard
19.Dickinson
20.Lennon
21.Ramone
22.Ozzy
23.Scott
24.Marley
25.Plant
26.Burdon
27.Screamin' Jay Hawkins
28.Halford
29.Redding
30.Rodgers
31.Gillan
32.Bowie
33.Slick
34.McCartney
35.Stanley
36.Allin
37.Rotten
38.Anderson
39.Rose
40.Dylan
41.Sly Stone
42.Hutchence
43.Cobain
44.Patton
45.Keenan
46.Harry
47.Dio
48.Johnson
49.Ghallager
50.Strummer
And thats just a first draft.
Please respond and give criticsm I can take it.
Seamus
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 01:08:53 (EST)
basser,
your right on one thing, walking and looking like an idiot doesn't get you to #1,
hence why mercury isn't.
Seamus
- Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 00:11:59 (EST)
I meant to say i havent looked at this list in months.........
Danny
Boston, - Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 00:07:42 (EST)
I havent looked at this list but what the hell happened?
How the HELL is Prince behind some novelty act like that douche from
the Darkness? Why is he behind Fred Durst? Iron Maiden? Tool?Are you
freaking serious? This guy is one of the best entertainers in the
history of music. Was this list made by some 40 year old metal head
who lives in his mothers basement?
PUT PRINCE HIGHER ON THIS FRIGGIN LIST!!!!!!
Danny
Boston, - Sunday, March 27, 2005 at 00:06:08 (EST)
Is Jerry Garcia really grateful to be dead?
...just a thought
basser
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 22:39:37 (EST)
this particular list is stupid. Freddie definately needs to be number
1, just cause Jagger walks and looks funny doesnt make him number 1.
and make kurt cobain higher
basser
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 22:30:22 (EST)
Ronnie at 25, nice. However, he's also in the honorable mention
category. I guess that's an oversight or something? Anyway, keep up the
great work.
Clark
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 18:19:19 (EST)
Why does it matter that Freddie was bi? Thats's the on;ly reason he's
not number one! What's up with that?
Mike
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 16:58:35 (EST)
justin hawkins is above robert plant because al is extremely biased.
mick jagger is #1 because he is more entertaining than freddie ever
was and he did it without being an assclown.
tina turner is there because she was also pretty entertaining and her
thighs rolled like thunder.
answers
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 16:50:14 (EST)
Why is Justin Hawkins above Robert Plant? Why is Mick Jagger #1? And
WHY is Tina Turner #6.
Where is the logic in that? an appaling list!
Put Freddie Mercury to Number 1.
Richrich
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 16:47:58 (EST)
I like Jon Bon Jovi at 39...Totally disagree with Freddie Mercury
lower than Chuck Berry.
Mike
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 16:37:13 (EST)
On Second thought, replace Axl Rose with Jim Morrison and John Lennon
with Axl
Basser
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:50:57 (EST)
Freddie Mercury is definately the greatest frontman of all time.
1.Freddie Mercury
2.Robert Plant
3.Elvis
4.Mick Jagger
5.Kurt Cobain
6.Bon Scott
7.Dave Ghrol
8.Anthoney Kietis
9.Joey Ramone
10.Zack De La Rocha
11.Steven Tyler
12.John Lennon
13.Axl Rose
14.Eddie Vedder
15.Jerry Garcia
16.Billie Joe Armstrong
B.J Armstrong is a nut-case, but hes still awsome live
Basser
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:49:45 (EST)
However, Axl and Ozzy are both a bit low....
Billy
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:43:29 (EST)
Freddie's voice was amazing live, just watch Live at Wembley.
Seriously, Queen bashers out there, nothing is going to change, dissing
Mercury isnt going to suddenly change Al's mind and switch him.
Also, why do so many people diss Corey Taylor's placement? Just because
he's not some legend. He is a damn fine frontman, just because you dont
like the music doesnt make someone bad. Taylor is fine where he is at
and could even move up a bit, just go to a Slipknot concert and you'll
find that out the hard way.
Billy
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:42:57 (EST)
I agree, Garcia should be mentioned somewhere.
willdeharp
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 15:22:04 (EST)
Corey fuckin Taylor? Aheadof Bon Scott??
Dakie
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 14:27:20 (EST)
Al
Thanks. Prince really should be top 20.
Chris
Chicago, - Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 11:04:23 (EST)
Doc
That was a different person who made that list. I'm Chris from
Chicago. Don't tell me to fuck off I have just as much right to be
here as you do. I'm not going to sit back and watch a formerly good
list be massacred by people like you who don't know shit about rock
and roll.
Chris
Chicago, - Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 11:03:32 (EST)
Freddie imo was a by far better singer live in every concert I have
seen of them, except Wembley 86 when he had a sore throat. Yet on crowd
bootlegs you hear more ''WOW's'' when he does something good than I've
heard from anyone else. Somebody To Love live at the Rose Bowl in 1982
was just ridiculously good, as was the power when playing with the
crowd at Live Aid.
Alex
Leeds UK, - Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 06:46:12 (EST)
tjackson, I suspect 99,9 % of people here disagree with you about
Mercury.
His voice was pretty more powerful live, the only thing it was never
played live is the opera section of Bo Rap.
He wore plenty of costumes (do you have the smallest idea of what you
are talking about?) not just sweaty undershirt as you sayd.
The only fact here is you don't like him and Queen and that's just
your opinion, not the true.
I really don't see how Jagger could match Mercury except of charisma
point.
D.J
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 05:28:16 (EST)
Al---the only thing delusional here is this list.
My opinion---and yes thats exactly what this whole thing is--what an
idiotic satement----is based on 1st hand knowledge and obsevation---
how many times did you see the Stones and queen live. From my 2
concerts of Queen in their heyday---even before they became over the
hill-----Mercury's voice was not even close to what it is on
record. Some of the music and singing obviously wasnt even live.
kinda like Madonna and Cher. oh -and ashley simpson.His "antics" as
you call it consisted of near pornography( maybe thats what you want)
His "costume "consisted of a sweaty undershirt.Those are facts--want
more.
Give me a true front man that can be sensual and sexy---if that what
you want to call it--without being so overt about it like jagger,
plant ,daltrey,rogers. or give me one with so much talent in the
voice that you eyes are clued to him (tate, perry,mccaffery
deyoung,dio,cronin), or someone that is just pure rock and roll crazy
like hendix ,tyler,ozzy,van zandt. Those are great frorntmen.
So dont give me this "that is only your opinion" bit when you rank
Plant 33 behind some hawkins nobody---now that is just opinion.---and
i suspect 99.9% of rock fans and critics would disagree with you on
that one. Like i've said before----any credibility you may have
wanted and --it was shot down with that alone. This site should
preface itself by saying---this is only the opinion of the editor--
and is completely self-serving----and should not be taken seroiusly.
Any one that disagrees is prone to being call an idiot and worse.
And dare not say anything bad about queen or little Freddie or you
will be called a homophobe or even worse--an american.
tjackson
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 02:52:44 (EST)
okay where the fuck is Jerry Garcia or Bob Weir on this list????? if
anyone agrees that they shold both be up ther near the top give me a
followup.
pissed of viewer
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 01:48:33 (EST)
Fred Durst #41
Corey Taylor #24
Eric Burdon #48
James Hetfield #92
Rob Halford #53
Glen Danzig #83
Sergio
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 00:42:39 (EST)
Al,
Change it
Ed
- Saturday, March 26, 2005 at 00:11:38 (EST)
Al, were you getting your shit pushed in while you were making this
list. How the hell does Robert Plant go from 7 down to 33. That has
to be a record.
triumph the insult comic dog
- Friday, March 25, 2005 at 23:33:41 (EST)
Al,
change ur list
It SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!
Ed
- Friday, March 25, 2005 at 22:50:59 (EST)
Good to see Axl moved up. He's an amazing bastard on stage. The
greatest asshole of all time. And I love him.
Thanks Al.
Vinni
- Friday, March 25, 2005 at 21:15:30 (EST)
I have to say i find it completely ridiculous that justin hawkins who
is just an imitation of robert plant(a good one at that) is above him
on this list. Not denying that Hawkins isnt a good frontman but if it
wasnt for plant he probably wouldnt be where he is today.
cameron
- Friday, March 25, 2005 at 20:55:55 (EST)
thank god you put micki jagger on the top
smeg
- Friday, March 25, 2005 at 18:55:49 (EST)
snausage, but how do you measure that?
JVan, someone must have been delusional when they made your posts.
Billy, I totally agree, he will be at least top 3 if not 1 in the revision.
Seamus, I have to include solo artists as well.
Toby, I only really changed the top 50 on this list, next time Fanning
will go up
tjackson, you're wrong and acting solely on opinion.
shaun, lol nice pun
Nick, cuz he doesnt score high enough in the criteria.
Hamwich, lol how very observant
Kevin, no use asking Jesus
deacon, how about some reasons buddy?
Toby, same as Deacon
Rachel, good thing they're not fighting
Hamwich, no Daltrey wasn't, he just swung it higher than anyone
Al
- Friday, March 25, 2005 at 18:21:21 (EST)
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